May 14, 2014; San Antonio, TX, USA; Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge (12) shoots the ball over San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan (21) in game five of the second round of the 2014 NBA Playoffs at AT&T Center. The Spurs won 104-82. Mandatory Credit: Soobum Im-USA TODAY Sports

New York Knicks Rumors: Did Knicks turn down a LaMarcus Aldridge trade?

New York Knicks fans have had enough of owner James Dolan, and rightfully so, especially after this season when he not only nixed a Kyle Lowry trade, but his constant interference has become old, not to mention he sat back and watched as the Knicks did nothing at all to improve a team that severely underachieved last season.

But in addition to Lowry could the Knicks have swung a deal for Portland Trail Blazers All-Star forward LaMarcus Aldridge.

May 12, 2014; Portland, OR, USA; Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge (12) shoots over San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan (21) during the first quarter in game four of the second round of the 2014 NBA Playoffs at the Moda Center. Mandatory Credit: Craig Mitchelldyer-USA TODAY Sports

This comes out of nowhere, but ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith indicates they could have and it is impacting Carmelo Anthony‘s decision on whether to stay in New York or not.

Smith writes:

Performing his due diligence, Anthony is paying attention to everything. Just as he has become more and more educated about what the Bulls, Lakers, Rockets, Clippers and others might have to offer as a future destination, he’s also paying attention to what the Knicks have to offer.

Melo knows the Knicks had a chance at LaMarcus Aldridge and blew it. He knows they snubbed a trade that would’ve brought Rajon Rondo to New York or Kyle Lowry in a separate deal. All season, he sat around, played hard and averaged 27 points per game, while the Knicks stood idly by and did nothing — primarily because Dolan wouldn’t allow them to, telling the team in multiple meetings that the players weren’t going anywhere.

And who can say matters have gotten better since he has hired Phil Jackson?

Jackson’s first move was to bring Lamar Odom on board.

I wouldn’t get too riled up about that one.

First you have to consider the source.

Aldridge was never linked to the Knicks at any point this season by anyone else and hasn’t been linked to New York at any time in seasons past so I have a hard time believing that if this were true that no one else would have picked up on it.

Then there is the fact that why would the upstart Blazers want to trade Aldridge, especially to the Knicks?

What would the Knicks have had to offer Portland that would make them want to make a deal with New York?

The answer is nothing.

So while it would have been nice to see Aldridge in a Knicks uniform, I wouldn’t get too outraged at Dolan over this one, as this was a highly unlikely scenario to begin with.

Smith makes some good points in his article about Jackson’s performance so far as team president, but he is reaching big time on the Aldridge scenario.

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  • Eric

    This was a rumor during last summer you must have just missed it. They apparently had a deal in place but went with the Bargnani trade instead because of his CAA ties.

    • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

      They went with Bargnani because they had something to offer. Raptors just wanted to dump his salary and came away with a 1st rd pick in ’16. What did they have to offer the Blazers? Chandler would have made the financials work but Chandler and a 1st rd pick in ’16 for Aldridge?

  • Lenox Williams

    Mr Smith the “knowall” just understand that all is well that ends well……..The acquisition of the ZEN MASTER trumps everything so please STFU and watch the Master works.

    • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

      Because Jackson has so much experience building teams. Oh wait, he has NEVER built a team, only coached existing Super-Stars. How did his attempt at hiring Steve Kerr go? Exactly. Enough said.

      • Lenox Williams

        wait a minute, it went well, because Derek Fisher is now the coach of the NYK.

  • Pupman

    Why would Portland ever have wanted to trade Aldridge? The rumor makes no sense. Period! On the other hand stranger things have occurred. For instance, the Knicks trading away players and three draft picks for a proven draft bust stiff named Bargnani who can’t rebound, play defense, who despite constant nonsense talk, is quite erratic as a three point threat, is soft, and has a massive $11 million contract – just what they didn’t need! So one never knows, does one?

    • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

      The Knicks basically gave up their 2016 1st rd pick for Barganai. Two of the players are retired and the 3rd hardly plays.

      • Pupman

        Not the point and not completely valid. The players would have been used more on the Knicks and might not have retired. Novak and Camby certainly could have been helpful this season. If not they could have served as trade bait for something more valuable than the stiff they received. Also, the the Knicks gave away more than a first rounder. They also gave up second round picks in 2014 and 2017. They should have received draft picks for taking this high priced $11 million per year draft bust off Toronto’s hands. I just didn’t know what the Knicks were thinking when they announced their intent to make this obviously absolutely atrocious deal. It was almost like they were trying to help Toronto at their own expense knowingly. You have to believe Dolan might have been behind this deal.

        • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

          Yeah, it is MY point and that makes it VALID. You make an invalid argument by using the Red Herring method. You list three players and three picks without quantifying their value to bolster YOUR OPINION that the Knicks gave up too much for Bargnani.

          Steve Novak is a novelty player whose skills only work in certain systems such as D’Antoni’s SSOL. Camby is 40 years old and missed the last season with a foot injury. No value whatsoever.

          Two 2nd rd picks? Really? That is my point. The Knicks 1st rd pick is the only thing that had any value.

          The Knicks were desperate to add another frontcourt player with Amare and Kenyon Martin being so injury-prone. Bargnani is only 28, 7–0″ and 250# who is a career 35% three-point shooter and 15 ppg scorer that would spread the floor with Carmelo and Chandler.

          • Pupman

            So because it is “your” point, it makes it “valid?” Sorry. It just doesn’t work that way!

            Steve Novak could have been useful in last year’s Knick lineup, and their lack of three point production compared to the previous year, in part, supports that notion.

            Camby didn’t have much value, but was waived in Oct. 2013. My understanding is that his injury would have healed and he would have returned to play if Houston allowed him to rehab. In any case, he did help the Knicks when he was healthy in 2013, so it’s not far fetched to think he might have contributed to a Knick team which needed big man help so much more than Houston.

            So a second round pick has no value according to your reasoning. That’s why Phil Jackson laments that he doesn’t have one and is attempting to buy a second round pick this year. And it’s so “worthless” that he is not getting any takers for the money he is dangling around the league. I suppose Lance Stephenson, Goren Dragic, Paul Millsap, and many more – all second round picks – have no value, notwithstanding that this year’s draft is one of the deepest in NBA history. Me thinks you need to reevaluate things.

            You are seriously thinking about defending the trade for Bargnani – that it made ANY sense? Any upside he presented was just what the Knicks didn’t need. They needed a tough defensive big man who could rebound – not a 35% three point shooter who is soft and couldn’t rebound or play defense and is injury prone, is a proven draft bust with an $11 million per year contract which further destroyed their salary cap. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

          • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

            Well actually it does because I only make valid points. A point is either valid or invalid. If you don’t know what you are talking about, like in your case, then of course you would find it confusing.

            There is a reason Novak excelled in D’Antoni’s line-up but not Woodson’s. There is also a reason why he has rode the bench for six different teams now. The man couldn’t even stick with Popovich.

            Yes, it is far-fetched to try and attach value to a retired and injured 40 year-old player.

            I don’t attach the same type of value to 2nd rd picks that you do. You over-valued them to the point of failing to point out they were 2nd rd picks for the sole purpose of supporting your flawed and illogical opinion.

            Do you have a problem with dealing with reality and facts? What the Knick’s needed and what assets they had to acquire a player to address those needs simply didn’t match. It is New York City. The NBA’s number one TV market by almost two million viewers over number two market Los Angeles.

            Barnani had failed in Toronto because he replaced a true center in Nesterovic and he and Bosh were redundant players. After Bosh left he simply wasn’t good enough to become the best player on his team.

            In New York he wasn’t going to be the best player on the Knicks. Bargnani is in the FINAL year of his contract. The Knicks made the only trade that they could without having any assets.

            I’m thinking you don’t understand all of the dynamics involved in running a franchise in New York, that you don’t understand how trades are constructed and carried out, that you do not know how to construct a valid argument and are seriously lacking in critical thinking skills.

            That pretty much covers it. anything else?

          • Pupman

            I guess it does cover it. You said it all with the asinine statement “I only make valid points.” Well, Earl your points are not valid. The “point” is Earl, is that I am not confused. You suffer from delusions of grandeur. But you’re not too bright – I mean, you had to be an awful fool to write such a statement. I suppose when @sses speak to donkeys (not to insult the donkeys), such is the result.

            Your comment which alluded that Novak only excelled under Mike DiAntoni and not Woodson just doesn’t hold water. Novak did excel for most of the 2012 – 2013 season. If I am correct Woodson was the coach at that time. Remember Di’Antoni resigned in March of 2012? Or did your flawed evaluation forget to take that into account? In 2014 the Knicks sorely missed reliable three point shooters. While Novak had a one dimensional game and was not the ultimate answer, Bargnani CERTAINLY wasn’t either. Most idiots were able to know that BEFORE the trade. Here, we have YOU defending a proven failure (as predicted by many of us) AFTER the fact. Poor form Earl. In fact, the Knicks could have and should have done more with their choice of trades. Nobody with even a pea brain would argue with the fact that they got fleeced by Toronto. Toronto was looking to move Bargnani for years. They had no takers. You know why Earl. Because other teams were too bright (really weren’t retarded enough) to strip assets for this $11 million per year stiff – except one sucker, the Knicks, of course. And yes, those additional second round picks WERE valuable. They shouldn’t have been traded. As a matter of fact, the Knicks should have RECEIVED picks for taking that draconian contract off Toronto’s books. And that particular reasoning that Bargnani would suddenly become a much better, more valuable player, because he wouldn’t need to be the best player on the Knicks was also flawed. Well, he certainly WASN’T the best player on the Knicks. He still stank. He was just as he was in Toronto for years – a draft bust, and the Knicks were no better off for it. The only thing good about this guy is that he is coming off the books in a year. Nothing else significantly changed from the player he was in Toronto, and no person with real knowledge of basketball would have pondered that Bargnani was going to suddenly become the player he never became in six years as a Raptor. You say the Knicks didn’t have any assets in that trade. I think they traded away significant assets with the acquisition of Bargnani – a first round pick and 2 second rounders were a part of their would-be future.

            That poppycock about me “not understanding about running a franchise in New York,” and that I “don’t understand how trades are constructed and carried out,” as if it needs to be significantly different than Chicago and LA is a bunch of garbage. If the Knicks have to be run as they have been run for the past 15 plus years because they are in New York, then they had better find another city, because they will never be successful. In fact, your statement is another one of those things you deluded yourself into thinking from some mule in left field. Please!

            As far as my “thinking skills” and my ability to “construct a valid argument” are concerned, YOU do not appear advanced enough to make such intricate evaluations. Look in the mirror first. And stick to trying to understand, though I realize that will be difficult for you, that things which have already failed (the Bargnani trade for the Knicks, for instance) are not very debatable at this point.

            Maybe that covers it. Anything else Earl?

          • EarlBlackJesusMonroe

            Imitation is the highest form a flattery, thanks! Try using paragraphs, people will actually take the time to read your irrelevant rant instead of ignoring it like I did.

            Did I make the Bargnani trade or was it Steven Mills and James Dolan or me?

            If you are too immature to hear the answers to your questions don’t ask them.

            You know what they say, “You can’t fix stupid!”

          • Pupman

            Wow. Now you attack the lack of paragraphs. You “ignored” my “rant?” It wasn’t broken down enough for you Earl? Try working on your reading comprehension. Perhaps it will improve in time, and then you might not need such an effort to understand my long paragraph. Or maybe it won’t help, because (I’ll flatter you again) “You can’t fix stupid.” Give me a break! Stupid!

            OK enough kid conversation.

            No. You didn’t make the Bargnani trade. I didn’t think YOU were part of the Knick organization. But your defense of the trade doesn’t hold water. If you prefer to acknowledge that by now taking the position, “Did I make the Bargnane trade ..” then so be it.

            I am hardly “immature” with regards to other’s answers. I just stated my opinion. YOU then began engaging in the character analysis and name calling. I just took a bit of umbrage at that and then engaged you and tore apart your “analysis.” It was fun for a while, but communicating with you is getting very old, very quickly. Not meant as an insult, because I’m sort of past that just now. But you really need to grow up little fellow.